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안녕하세요 저는 원더풀이자 핫티...였었습니다.
초창기때부터 원더걸스 팬을 쭉 해와서 저는 탈퇴의 아픔을 3번 겪었습니다.
원더걸스 전 멤버 현아양이 원더걸스를 나갔을 때에
현아양팬들은 남은 멤버들 욕을 했습니다. 그리고 남은 멤버들 팬분들은 열 뻗치셔서
현아양을 욕하기 시작했죠. 그와 동시에 원더걸스에서 현아양이 완전 분리가 됐습니다.
jyp는 똑같은 수법을 쓰기로 유명한데 이번에
육피엠과 재범군도 그렇게 떨어뜨리려는 수작일 지도 모릅니다.
벌써 육피엠 쉴드 치는 곳도 있구요, 왜 우리 오빠들만 욕먹냐는 곳도 있어요.
jyp는 무서운 계략을 잘 짜서 늘 팬들은 애먹곤 합니다.
하지만,
이번은 jyp가 졌습니다.
jyp는 일부러 공지도 허점이 보이게 만들었습니다. 아시죠?
팬들은 날짜마다 사건들을 하나하나 종합해서 결국 육피엠이 동의하게 된 건
회사의 압박 아니냐며 반박자료들을 충분히 온라인상에 올려놓았고,
잘하면 육피엠에게 동정표가 갔을 지도 모릅니다.
허나, 간담회가 끝나고 제 생각이지만.......2pm은 망했습니다
그 이유는 다들 잘 알고 계시겠죠
우선 첫번째, 사생분들이 푼 일화.
우리가 2pm을 다른 가수들보다 더 좋아한 이유가 뭘까요?
가식없는 모습, 꾸밈없는 모습, 솔직한 모습, 방목한 아이돌, 서로 격하게 친해서
형에게 반말도 쓰는 멤버들 등등.....
하지만 일화들에서 보셨듯이 그동안 리드자가 너네 형 무시해? 리드자만 믿어! 이건 음모야!
라는 말을 입에 달고 산 이유를 조금은 이해할 만도 합니다.
일화는 굳이 올리지 않아도 널리 퍼졌다고 믿겠습니다.
육피엠......아니 오피엠인가요? 아무튼, 그들의 가식적인모습 이 들통났습니다.
두번째, 버릇없었던 간담회
요즘 스케줄이 많았던가요? 팬들은 진지한데,
당신들은 턱괴고 졸고, 기지개 피고, 멤버 한명의 인생이 달린 중요한 순간에
그런 버릇없는 행동을 보였단 말입니까?
말투 또한 예의가 넘쳐도 모자랄 판에 비꼬는 말투와
이제 더이상 재범이는 2pm에 필요없다는 식의 대답들.
이봐요, 내가 육피엠에게 묻고 싶습니다.
1년 5개월밖에 같이 하지 못한 팬들은 재범이를 감싸주는데,
당신네들 말마따마 함께한지 3-5년된 당신들은 재범이를 감싸주지 못합니까?
간담회 녹취내용중 육피엠만한 자식을 둔 어머니팬께서 격분을 하셨습니다
재범이를...... 국제쓰레기로 만들어놓았다고.
다른 사람들은요, 개쓰레기짓을 한, 인간만도 못한 짓을 한,
조ㄷㅅ, 강ㅎㅅ 같은 살인마에게도 '인권'은 있다고 해줍니다......
근데 육피엠을 비롯한 jype 당신들은 재범군의 인권을......빼앗고 짓밟았습니다..
마지막으로 총정리하자면
재범이가 2pm으로 돌아오는것, 이제 저희가 반대입니다
그런 쓰레기같은 소굴로 들이밀수도 없고 리더가 떠났는데 그동안 보여준 가식덩어리
멤버들 사이에 둘 수도 없습니다. 그들 사이에 두면 안되는 존재입니다.
6pm...........아니, 2pm은 망했습니다.
억울합니다. 2pm을 정상의 자리에 올려놓기까지 ..물론 다른 멤버들 힘도 있었겠지만
다른 누구보다도 2pm을 알리려고 머리에 2pm까지 새겼던 박재범 힘이 큽니다.
아이돌 단물은 5년이면 빠지지만 그 추억은 평생 갑니다.
육피엠 당신들은 5년 아니 이상태론 3년도 못가겠네요.
몇년만 돈 벌고 나중에 예능 같은데 나와서 재범군얘기로 추억팔이나 하겠지만,
우리들은.......재범이에게 사생활더러운 아이라는 꼬리표가 달리게 만들었듯
당신들에게 '배신' 이라는 꼬리표를 달아주겠습니다
jype 사람들은 분명 동정론이 육피엠에게 갈 것이라고 생각했을 겁니다
동시에 2pm팬은 떨어져나가고 육피엠 신생팬이 생길 것이라고 생각했을 겁니다.
하지만 당신들이 틀렸습니다..........
육피엠의 더러운 본성을 알게 된 이상, 타팬분들도 육피엠.... 치를 떨며 싫어하십니다.
1명이 6명을 살렸는데 6명이 1명을 못살리다니요
사즉필생......살려고 하면 반드시 죽고, 죽을려고 하면 반드시 산다.
육피엠 당신들 혼자 살아남으려다........당신들은 죽게 생겼습니다.
초창기때부터 원더걸스 팬을 쭉 해와서 저는 탈퇴의 아픔을 3번 겪었습니다.
원더걸스 전 멤버 현아양이 원더걸스를 나갔을 때에
현아양팬들은 남은 멤버들 욕을 했습니다. 그리고 남은 멤버들 팬분들은 열 뻗치셔서
현아양을 욕하기 시작했죠. 그와 동시에 원더걸스에서 현아양이 완전 분리가 됐습니다.
jyp는 똑같은 수법을 쓰기로 유명한데 이번에
육피엠과 재범군도 그렇게 떨어뜨리려는 수작일 지도 모릅니다.
벌써 육피엠 쉴드 치는 곳도 있구요, 왜 우리 오빠들만 욕먹냐는 곳도 있어요.
jyp는 무서운 계략을 잘 짜서 늘 팬들은 애먹곤 합니다.
하지만,
이번은 jyp가 졌습니다.
jyp는 일부러 공지도 허점이 보이게 만들었습니다. 아시죠?
팬들은 날짜마다 사건들을 하나하나 종합해서 결국 육피엠이 동의하게 된 건
회사의 압박 아니냐며 반박자료들을 충분히 온라인상에 올려놓았고,
잘하면 육피엠에게 동정표가 갔을 지도 모릅니다.
허나, 간담회가 끝나고 제 생각이지만.......2pm은 망했습니다
그 이유는 다들 잘 알고 계시겠죠
우선 첫번째, 사생분들이 푼 일화.
우리가 2pm을 다른 가수들보다 더 좋아한 이유가 뭘까요?
가식없는 모습, 꾸밈없는 모습, 솔직한 모습, 방목한 아이돌, 서로 격하게 친해서
형에게 반말도 쓰는 멤버들 등등.....
하지만 일화들에서 보셨듯이 그동안 리드자가 너네 형 무시해? 리드자만 믿어! 이건 음모야!
라는 말을 입에 달고 산 이유를 조금은 이해할 만도 합니다.
일화는 굳이 올리지 않아도 널리 퍼졌다고 믿겠습니다.
육피엠......아니 오피엠인가요? 아무튼, 그들의 가식적인모습 이 들통났습니다.
두번째, 버릇없었던 간담회
요즘 스케줄이 많았던가요? 팬들은 진지한데,
당신들은 턱괴고 졸고, 기지개 피고, 멤버 한명의 인생이 달린 중요한 순간에
그런 버릇없는 행동을 보였단 말입니까?
말투 또한 예의가 넘쳐도 모자랄 판에 비꼬는 말투와
이제 더이상 재범이는 2pm에 필요없다는 식의 대답들.
이봐요, 내가 육피엠에게 묻고 싶습니다.
1년 5개월밖에 같이 하지 못한 팬들은 재범이를 감싸주는데,
당신네들 말마따마 함께한지 3-5년된 당신들은 재범이를 감싸주지 못합니까?
간담회 녹취내용중 육피엠만한 자식을 둔 어머니팬께서 격분을 하셨습니다
재범이를...... 국제쓰레기로 만들어놓았다고.
다른 사람들은요, 개쓰레기짓을 한, 인간만도 못한 짓을 한,
조ㄷㅅ, 강ㅎㅅ 같은 살인마에게도 '인권'은 있다고 해줍니다......
근데 육피엠을 비롯한 jype 당신들은 재범군의 인권을......빼앗고 짓밟았습니다..
마지막으로 총정리하자면
재범이가 2pm으로 돌아오는것, 이제 저희가 반대입니다
그런 쓰레기같은 소굴로 들이밀수도 없고 리더가 떠났는데 그동안 보여준 가식덩어리
멤버들 사이에 둘 수도 없습니다. 그들 사이에 두면 안되는 존재입니다.
6pm...........아니, 2pm은 망했습니다.
억울합니다. 2pm을 정상의 자리에 올려놓기까지 ..물론 다른 멤버들 힘도 있었겠지만
다른 누구보다도 2pm을 알리려고 머리에 2pm까지 새겼던 박재범 힘이 큽니다.
아이돌 단물은 5년이면 빠지지만 그 추억은 평생 갑니다.
육피엠 당신들은 5년 아니 이상태론 3년도 못가겠네요.
몇년만 돈 벌고 나중에 예능 같은데 나와서 재범군얘기로 추억팔이나 하겠지만,
우리들은.......재범이에게 사생활더러운 아이라는 꼬리표가 달리게 만들었듯
당신들에게 '배신' 이라는 꼬리표를 달아주겠습니다
jype 사람들은 분명 동정론이 육피엠에게 갈 것이라고 생각했을 겁니다
동시에 2pm팬은 떨어져나가고 육피엠 신생팬이 생길 것이라고 생각했을 겁니다.
하지만 당신들이 틀렸습니다..........
육피엠의 더러운 본성을 알게 된 이상, 타팬분들도 육피엠.... 치를 떨며 싫어하십니다.
1명이 6명을 살렸는데 6명이 1명을 못살리다니요
사즉필생......살려고 하면 반드시 죽고, 죽을려고 하면 반드시 산다.
육피엠 당신들 혼자 살아남으려다........당신들은 죽게 생겼습니다.
I'm a Wonderful and a Hottest and so I've had to endure the pain of three withdrawals. When Wonder Girls' Hyunah first withdrew, Hyunah's fans expressed their disappointment and hatred towards the remaining members. The fans of the remaining members also got angry and expressed their hatred back.
After that, the distinction between the Wonder Girls and Hyunah became clear.
JYPE is notorious for using the same tactics and this is the same tactic that he's using now with Jaebum's case. It might be a ploy to bring down both the remaining members and Jaebum at once. There are already fansites that are angry and shielding the remaining members, asking 'Why are you only attacking our oppas?' Because of JYPE's tactics, it is the fans that are suffering.
However, this time, JYPE has lost.
JYPE has purposely made it so that there is no way out. Immediately after the notice, fans began to speculate as to whether the boys truly agreed to Jaebum's withdrawal and came up with a list of dates that contradicted their statement.
Unfortunately, 2PM will fail. I'm sure you all know of the reason.
Firstly, sasaeng fans have released their information out of anger. (TN: Sasaeng fans are aggressive fans that follow the boys around 24/7. They are notorious for having garnered a lot of personal information about the boys.)
Why did we love 2PM? Because they never packaged themselves. They were never fake, they were always honest. They were friendly with each other. However, through the release of the sasaeng accounts, we were able to learn their true personalities. I will not go out of my way to paste the specific sasaeng accounts here but they have already been spread far and wide.
Secondly, the 2PM members were extremely unmannered at the conference.
Maybe they had a lot of schedules and were tired? However, the fans were asking the questions in a serious matter. The members were holding their chin ups with their hands, falling asleep, stretching in their seats... This is an issue that has the life on the line of one of their members. How can they show such unmannerly acts in a time of crisis?
And their tone. It's not even enough for them to have been respectful but their tone of voice was sarcastic and disrespectful. They answered their questions as if they no longer needed Jaebum in 2PM.
I would like to ask them myself. There are fans that were only able to be with Jaebum for a year and 5 months and are able and willing to protect him. For having been together with Jaebum for 3-5 years, how could the members not be willing to do the same?
During the conference, a mother of teenagers the age of 2PM angrily stated that they have turned Jaebum into international trash. Other people, no matter how inhumane the acts they have committed are, no matter how trashy their act is, they have human rights.
But 6PM and JYPE... has trampled on the human rights of Jaebum.
To organize this with a conclusion, we are now against Jaebum returning to 2PM. We are not willing to let Jaebum return to such a trashy agency and have to deal with the fake members. He is not someone that belongs there.
6PM......... no, 2PM, has failed.
I am regretful. It is Jaebum, the one that has engraved 2PM onto the side of his head, that has brought 2PM to the top that they are at now. The length of idols last 5 years but the memories last forever. 2PM will never last 5 years, let alone 3.
They might be able to make a few bucks but they are the ones that will come out on varieties years later and make money by speaking of Jaebum's names on varieties.
Like they have put the tag of 'dirty social life' onto Jaebum's name, we will put the tag of 'traitors' onto their names.
JYPE believes that people will feel sympathetic towards 6PM. JYPE believes that they will be able to garner new fans.
They are wrong.
As long as people know of 2PM's true colors... even other fanclubs are disgusted with the recent accounts of 2PM.
One person was able to save six members, but how could six members not be able to save one.
If you wish to live, you will die. If you wish to die, you will live. (사즉필생: Direct quote from Wooyoung's Cyworld, he posted this after Jay's incident.)
6PM... in order to live by yourself, you will die now.
After that, the distinction between the Wonder Girls and Hyunah became clear.
JYPE is notorious for using the same tactics and this is the same tactic that he's using now with Jaebum's case. It might be a ploy to bring down both the remaining members and Jaebum at once. There are already fansites that are angry and shielding the remaining members, asking 'Why are you only attacking our oppas?' Because of JYPE's tactics, it is the fans that are suffering.
However, this time, JYPE has lost.
JYPE has purposely made it so that there is no way out. Immediately after the notice, fans began to speculate as to whether the boys truly agreed to Jaebum's withdrawal and came up with a list of dates that contradicted their statement.
Unfortunately, 2PM will fail. I'm sure you all know of the reason.
Firstly, sasaeng fans have released their information out of anger. (TN: Sasaeng fans are aggressive fans that follow the boys around 24/7. They are notorious for having garnered a lot of personal information about the boys.)
Why did we love 2PM? Because they never packaged themselves. They were never fake, they were always honest. They were friendly with each other. However, through the release of the sasaeng accounts, we were able to learn their true personalities. I will not go out of my way to paste the specific sasaeng accounts here but they have already been spread far and wide.
Secondly, the 2PM members were extremely unmannered at the conference.
Maybe they had a lot of schedules and were tired? However, the fans were asking the questions in a serious matter. The members were holding their chin ups with their hands, falling asleep, stretching in their seats... This is an issue that has the life on the line of one of their members. How can they show such unmannerly acts in a time of crisis?
And their tone. It's not even enough for them to have been respectful but their tone of voice was sarcastic and disrespectful. They answered their questions as if they no longer needed Jaebum in 2PM.
I would like to ask them myself. There are fans that were only able to be with Jaebum for a year and 5 months and are able and willing to protect him. For having been together with Jaebum for 3-5 years, how could the members not be willing to do the same?
During the conference, a mother of teenagers the age of 2PM angrily stated that they have turned Jaebum into international trash. Other people, no matter how inhumane the acts they have committed are, no matter how trashy their act is, they have human rights.
But 6PM and JYPE... has trampled on the human rights of Jaebum.
To organize this with a conclusion, we are now against Jaebum returning to 2PM. We are not willing to let Jaebum return to such a trashy agency and have to deal with the fake members. He is not someone that belongs there.
6PM......... no, 2PM, has failed.
I am regretful. It is Jaebum, the one that has engraved 2PM onto the side of his head, that has brought 2PM to the top that they are at now. The length of idols last 5 years but the memories last forever. 2PM will never last 5 years, let alone 3.
They might be able to make a few bucks but they are the ones that will come out on varieties years later and make money by speaking of Jaebum's names on varieties.
Like they have put the tag of 'dirty social life' onto Jaebum's name, we will put the tag of 'traitors' onto their names.
JYPE believes that people will feel sympathetic towards 6PM. JYPE believes that they will be able to garner new fans.
They are wrong.
As long as people know of 2PM's true colors... even other fanclubs are disgusted with the recent accounts of 2PM.
One person was able to save six members, but how could six members not be able to save one.
If you wish to live, you will die. If you wish to die, you will live. (사즉필생: Direct quote from Wooyoung's Cyworld, he posted this after Jay's incident.)
6PM... in order to live by yourself, you will die now.
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My reply:
I'm kinda at a loss of words.
I did'nt even had the chance to get to know jay for a month.
Only getting to fall in love with them after Jay left & falling for Jay after watching their shows.
How strong their bond seemed to be.
But now... I don't know.
If one member just fell like that, who can make sure that this won't happen to any of the other boys?
I did'nt even had the chance to get to know jay for a month.
Only getting to fall in love with them after Jay left & falling for Jay after watching their shows.
How strong their bond seemed to be.
But now... I don't know.
If one member just fell like that, who can make sure that this won't happen to any of the other boys?
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