Wednesday, March 3, 2010

Credits: http://justhottests.tumblr.com/


[ Jay walking to the gym. ] 


[Title : ‘Six-pack’ Jaebum “In order to make my body, I stayed away from smoking and alcohol] Alcohol & cigarettes are a given, but he even stayed away from coffee; that’s how much he cared about his body.


[WILD BUNNY EP. 01] - Jay drinks a korean rice drink, while Taec and Chansung drank beer.

[SANGSANG+] He said his dream was to make enough money for his mom to live comfortably.

For the first 2 months he came to korea, he called his mom and little brother every night. And after every phone call, he would cry himself to sleep.

He always cared for his dongsengs.

[JoKwon during a radio interview] “During our trainee days, we were all very poor but once I said to Jaebum that I liked a certain sneaker, I don’t even remember telling him but he did and for my birthday he bought it for me. That’s the gift I remember the most.”

[Interview from WILD BUNNY PD]
S: (On wild bunny) sometimes you act like a fool.
J: Uhmm, that’s because.. the members seemed so down, I tried to make the filming more enjoyable for them.
Even the PD said he’s all jokes in front of the camera but he was a really caring hyung behind it.

[Jay took glucosamine pills]



[2PM.. Acrobat Idols; Beast Idols. I’m not saying Jay did it alone, but he sure did a lot of work for them to just throw away. ]

[Jay’s wrist injury.]



[Even raising his arm hurt him on this day.]


[On that same day, he did this. He never complained.]


[Cuts on his hands, bruises on his ankles.]

[Others ignored, but Jay bowed 90 degrees]
착하게 살고 싶다. 가족들에게 자랑스러운 아들이 되고싶고 사람들에게 좋은 사람이 되고 싶다. [I want to live a nice life. I want to become a proud son to my family. I want to become a nice person to everyone.]

일단 사랑하는 가족들과 친구들, 팬들과 가까운 사람들이
내가 열심히 하는 모습을 보고 ‘나도 열심히 살아야겠다’는 생각을 하면 좋겠다.” [When asked what his future plans were : “First of all, I want my family, friends, fans, and the people close to me to watch me try my best and in return think ‘i should try my best too’.]


[
This is the last of 2PM’s leadja, but only the beginning of Park Jaebum.]

SO JYPE, WHATS THE BIG SECRET? WHAT’S SO UNFORGIVABLE?
THAT HE’S TOO CLEAN TO BE A PART OF 2PM? THAT HE’S TOO MUCH OF AN ANGEL FOR YOUR DIRTY COMPANY IMAGE?
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 Please, Coldest, Jay-bias, ex-hottests (whatever) , cursing out JYPe and saying bad things about the other members won’t solve anything. It’ll only create more publicity for 6PM. As we all know, the fans, the consumers are the most important to any business, and that’s what JYP is, it’s a business; what they fear the most is being ignored. If they happen to make a fake rumor about Jay, of course Jay-bias fans will know it’s not true but the people who don’t know, people who don’t care, when that article comes out they will believe it, and we’ll be cursed at for accusing 6PM. If you really want to hurt JYPe, ignore them. Ignore 6PM, don’t say anything good or bad about them. Support Jay Park in AOM in Seattle. Don’t spread word about 6PM being bad, 6PM throwing away Jay, if you must talk, talk about Jay’s innocence, and him being a genuinely good person.

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The one where Jay bowed at the awards has such a deep immpresion to me,
I remember watching and talking to myself saying
"Wow...only He bowed."
And smiled to myself, being reminded again how sweet he is(:
But did'nt think too much
but I did think like should'nt the rest have bowed too,
and being in korea longer then Jay, they should've known more bout this than Jay.

Nichkhun’s Story. (+ the truth behind the cameras)

CREDITS:  Insider2PM


We recently received this information from out source. We won’t say how, but our source does have access to such information about the boys. Please don’t ask us questions about our source. They are the biggest reason we are able to provide you with these updates, and if they get in any kind of trouble, it could be dangerous, not only for our source, but for this site as well.
We understand that it’s hard to believe us, but please just know that we wouldn’t want to lie to you or make up stories. The writers went through great consideration on whether we wanted to release this or not.
The first thing our source told us is that Nichkhun wants to apologize to Jay. He’s sorry that he wasn’t able to protect him. During the conference, he had no choice but to follow orders and go along with JYPE. In order to survive under the contract with JYPE and with the other 2PM members, he has to follow along with whatever they do, even if that means going against Jay. He’s helpless – a foreigner in a different country with a different culture. He’s alone now.
Before, when Jay was around, Nichkhun relied on Jay a lot. The two were very close because they shared the same title of “foreigner.” They both struggled with the Korean language and were able to speak freely with each other in English. They were each an outlet to the other for speaking freely about their lives.
During Jay’s life in Korea, he was never treated well by the other members. To the other boys, he wasn’t an older brother or a leader, but a slave to be picked on and bullied. If Jay was treated so badly, Nichkhun probably wasn’t spared either. He’s happiest whenever he’s able to go home to Thailand because he’s able to forget the bad situation in Korea. He’s not even able to tell his mother or the rest of his family about what goes on because he doesn’t want them to worry. No one knows what goes on in their dorm when they’re away from all the cameras. No one knows how much they both suffered.
During his last trip to Thailand, Nichkhun was asked who he was jealous of. He said Jay.
Nichkhun knows that Jay’s a good hyung. He misses him from the bottom of his heart.
We will be closing comments for this post because its personal content. Please be understanding.
——————–
On another note, our source had another update for our readers.
We are all aware of the “brotherhood” we saw during shows like Idol Army and Wild Bunny. We know that everyone loves the relationship the boys had one another. It’s hard, but we have to realize that it wasn’t real. If you read from the screenshot of what one of the writers from Wild Bunny wrote on their cyworld, you can notice that Jay had to liven the atmosphere when the other members were tired or down. Just like in this case, the actions and words from the members were an act to keep the show interesting.
Translation:
S: (On our show) You act silly sometimes…?
J: Mmm, that’s just…
if the members are feeling too down, I do those things to make the atmosphere (of filming) better.
A quite mature answer not expected from his usual fun self…
Like in that answer, he knew how to be calm while the atmosphere was too much.
Although it seems like he freely does what he wants to do, this 23-year-old young man specifically took into account the actions and words of everyone and responded accordingly with those people in mind.
Hurry up and come back to your motherland.
This is just my request to you to fulfill the dreams you have yet to fulfill and become happier.
We’re just asking that you please take into consideration that Idol Army and Wild Bunny are shows. The members know that they have to keep the shows entertaining for ratings and they also know that their image depends highly on this ‘brotherhood.’

Rumors about Jay's "scandal"

CREDITS: Insider2PM



Ever since JYPE mentioned that Jay confessed a mistake that he made during the A&A promotion time period, rumors have been flying left and right. We’ve heard many absurd ones such as Jay raping a minor, having a drug problem, or getting Sunmi pregnant. You don’t have to be a Jay-bias fan to know that he is definitely not that type of person. He was extremely hard-working and not even the sasaeng fans could find anything bad about him.
It seems like the most prominent rumor right now is that Jay has a sex tape.�Even Jay’s mother knows about this rumor. When a fan representative brought presents to Jay’s church, she met Jay’s mother. The topic of Jay’s “scandal” came up in their conversation and she angrily said “There’s no such thing as a sex tape of my son.” Jay’s pastor has also spoken out about someone by his side that is wrongly accused. People are speculating that he is referring to none other than Jay’s current situation.
We’ve been warned that JYPE is going to release news of Jay’s scandal soon (it’s most likely going to be something like a sex tape), but to not believe any of it and trust Jay. 150%.
———– Edit
This is just a quick but IMPORTANT update. We didn’t want to make a whole separate update.
This is an answer we posted on our formspring, but it’s important that more people are aware of this.
Please spread this information.
There is speculation the JYPE is letting the boys take all this heat so that if fans treat them badly enough, they will release “sympathy articles” about them so that people might start feeling bad for them. In turn, people may start supporting them again.
We really hope that will never happen, but such articles are already on the rise. Be careful.
———– Edit (03/02/10)
Our source has updated us that they’ve heard that JYPE won’t be going along with the sex tape rumor. They also heard about certain “photo scandals” of Jay and “imitation of skinship” with another girl. We’re not sure exactly what this means, but there is a possibility these photos will surface soon. Keep in mind they may be either be photoshopped or presented in a way that it wasn’t meant to be.

2PM SB Photoshoot



saw this vid on YT then saw an aritcle bout it on allkpop yesterday
but when I tried searching for it today, they said the post does'nt exist anymore :(
Oh wells, enjoy the vid and these 2 pics then~!

Chansung is so F-ing hotttttt!!!



PREVIEW!

^^

SM Entertainment stops doing business with Mnet

Credits: allkpop

SM Entertainment has announced that they will stop providing music to Mnet due to the media giant’s breach of contract.
Official statement on SME’s website stated,
“SME has been discussing Mnet Media in regards to the renewal of a contract on music distribution as the contract term was about to end. However, we found out that Mnet Media had breached the contract by providing content created by SME on their websites without our consent over a lengthy period of time. This is a clear breach of contract which happened without any notification or explanation to SME.
SME has been providing content to Mnet Media, but due to such circumstances, we believe that it is difficult to continue business relationship when trust is lost, so we have decided not to renew our contract.”
Mnet.com noted on their website about the matter and said,
“We are trying our best for music distribution to continue through constant discussion.”
As of March 2nd, all SM-related material has been removed from Mnet’s database.
Mnet and SME have not been on good terms lately, and this will no doubt worsen their relationship. Stay tuned to allkpop as the case develops.


 ~
Boo, one place less to see them perform! :(

One Way covers Taeyang’s Only Look at Me

Credits: allkpop

They seem really intriguing to me, I don't know why though, haas...



New Hip Hop / R&B group One Way consisting of members Chance, Peter, and Young Sky are making quite an impression.
We first introduced you to them with the sounds of U-Drag and One Way and they recently released the music video for their new single Magic. Now they’re treating fans with a cover of Big Bang Taeyang’s hit single Only Look at Me.
A lot of people have been giving feedback that the group reminds them of Taeyang so they decided to do the cover. They also gave props to 1TYM leader Teddy, who produces most of the YG Entertainment hits.

 One Way’s new mini album is scheduled to be released online and in stores on March 4, 2010. They’re also scheduled to make their debut performance on March 6th’s MBC Music Core

 TaeYang




One Way


^^

Removal of Jaebum Backfires, News from the Korea Times newspaper

Credit: Korea Times


 Former 2PM leader Park Jaebum was branded as a "sinner" and kicked out of the popular idol group by its agency JYP Entertainment (JYPE).

However, the controversial removal of Jaebum is backfiring on 2PM and JYPE's president Park Jin-young as fans are turning their back on them.

Yet, the group swept music charts even after the Korean-American singer left 2PM in September amid disputes about negative comments he made about Korea on social networking site MySpace between 2005 and 2007.

But the group faces the biggest crisis ever since its debut, with some fans threatening to boycott 2PM minus Jaebum.

For an explanation for the expulsion of the young singer, JYPE said Jaebum did "something seriously wrong that is more serious than his MySpace controversy."

The agency said it and the six members came to an agreement that it was no longer possible for Jaebum to continue activities with 2PM. But they are refusing to disclose what kinds of transgressions he committed.

Jaebum's fans are up in arms over why he had to carry the scarlet letter. They are venting their anger against the remaining members for what they call the betrayal of Jaebum.

In a meeting with fans last week, the group said they had no other choice but to agree with the decision to permanently kick Jaebum out due to his "serious wrongdoing."

As his fans are protesting against 2PM and its agency, his mother has asked them to refrain from taking any action against them in a letter sent to the Jaebum fan club.

Underground, the association of Jaebum fan clubs, made the letter public on its Web site, Tuesday.

"Despite all kinds of rumors that could cause a person to despair, Jaebum has shown his normal self and allowed us to not despair but have hope," his mother said. "I feel a bit relieved as it's all over now, even though it was not a favorable end for him."

She expressed wishes that her son won't be the subject of issues in the future.

In turn, the fan site called for its members to respect her request.

"Jaebum and his family went through a difficult time dealing with various rumors over the last six months. They no longer want him to be an issue now," the fan club said in a statement. "Underground has decided to respect their wishes. Supporting what he and his family want is part of a fan's last act of love toward Jaebum."

But disputes are unlikely to subside. Some fans are turning against 2PM and posting items against them and their personal information on various Web sites and online cafes.

On top of shutting down online fan cafes voluntarily, some fans are posting video clips showing the burning of CDs and photos of 2PM members.

In reaction, JYPE filed a complaint against netizens with the police.

"Some netizens are spreading the six members' residential ID numbers and personal information illegally. To protect their privacy, we have referred the case to the police," it said in a statement.

The conflict between fans and the agency is likely to continue as long as Jaebum's wrongdoing remains a secret. They said the cloud hanging over 2PM will be cleared only when JYPE comes clean on why it kicked Jaebum out of the group.


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My Reply:

Hahas, even The Korean Times can't ignore the uproar of things that are happening.
I hope of this will come out though...

Various accounts of Jaebum

CREDITS: DAUM(SOURCE); jennying♥@2ONEDAY.COM (TRANS)



I deliberately omitted some parts because they were negative comments toward the other members. I was going to add them in but due to all this bias blaming I chose not to. 

I'm not doing this because I'm Jay biased. This is just to give the readers here a good reminder of what leadja was like. Cause we'll never forget.



우릴 보고 좀 난감한 표정을 지어서..ㅠㅠ
내친구는 울고 우리 심난했다.
근데 여기까지 와서 슈퍼스타에게 오해만 갖고 다시 한국에 갈순 없어서
말 걸 자신은 또 없어서;
비행기 티켓에 하고싶은말 적어서 보여주고...
그런거 아니라며 연신 말해줬지만.. 여전히 표정은 무거웠다 ㅠㅠ
그땐 왜그런지 몰랐지
그냥 신기했어
겁없이 여기까지 온것도 웃기고 신기한데
슈퍼스타가 우리 앞에 있고 내가 말거는거에 대답해주고
싸인도 해주고

그땐 마냥 신기했다. 와! 신기해 대박 영광스러워 가슴이 먹먹해
.. 그때 솔직히 .. 슈퍼스타 반응이나 모습에 서운하기도 했는데
왜그랬는지 솔직히 이해도 안되고 여기까지 온거 미안하기만 했다.
그래서 마음은 찜찜했지만 신기하도 대박인 마음으로 덮었음.

ㅠㅠ... 슈퍼스타 힘내요!
솔까 서울보단 시애틀이 공기도 좋고 예쁘니까 괜찮아요..!


 When he saw us it looked as if he thought he was in sticky situation… ㅠㅠ
My friend cried, it was so difficult for us.
But we came all the way here, we couldn't just go back with the superstar misunderstanding us;
I wrote what I wanted to say on my ticket…
When he saw it he said it wasn't us, but.. his facial expression was definitely heavy ㅠㅠ
I didn't know why back then
I was just amazed
It was funny and amazing that we even came here without any fear
And the fact that a superstar was standing in front of us, and responding to what I say,
And even signed.

That time all I felt was amazement. Woah! This is amazing, daebak this is such an honor, my heart was just stunned
.. But that time, to be honest .. I was disappointed with the superstar's responses,
I didn't understand why he was being like that and we were sorry to even come here.
So we were a bit uncomfortable but I still accepted it as daebak and amazing.

ㅠㅠ… Superstar, keep strong!
To be honest Seattle's air is much better than Seoul, and really pretty…!



제 지인의 친구가 씨애틀에서 재범이 직접 만나고 싸인받고 쓴 글이라네요.
아 속상해.
Are you angry? because of meㅠ? sorry.. 미안해요..ㅠ
↑ 이건 혜인이라는 친구가 써서 재버미한테 보여준거..
옆에 재범이가 싸인한거래요.

(+) 이싸인 받고 바로다음날 영구탈퇴 기사터졌대요..
그래서 저 싸인해줄때 재범이 표정 완전 굳어서 무서웠대요..
(++) 사진주인이 이름 지워달래서 모자이크처리합니다ㅠㅠ

(+++) 얘기 더듣구와써여.
이친구가 돈모아서 씨애틀 갔대요. 재범이를 만났죠.
말을 걸었는가 암튼 그랬는데, 재범이 표정이 완전 안좋더래요.
그래서 쫄아서 말을 더 못걸고 저 티켓에다가
Are you angry? because of meㅠ? sorry.. 미안해요..ㅠ
라고 써서 줬대요.
그랬더니 재범이가 싸인해주면서. 아니라고. 너땜에 화난거 그런거 아니라고.
자기가 안좋은 일이 있다고.
그랬다네요.
안좋은일이 영구탈퇴일줄이야.............

재범이도 어의가 없겠죠 그런 거짓기사로 영구탈퇴를 내는데
당연히 화나겠죠


 This was what my friend's friend wrote when they directly met Jaebum in Seattle and got his signature.
Ah so depressing.
Are you angry? because of meㅠ? Sorry.. ㅠ
This is what my friend Hye Rin wrote and gave to Jaebum..
Next to it was Jaebum's signature.

(+) The day after she received this signature, the announcement of his permanent withdrawal was made..
That's why when he signed, his face expression was really worn down and scary..
(++) The owner of the picture wanted me to erase her name so I blurred it.

(+++) I've come back, hearing more information.
This friend saved up her money to go to Seattle. And met Jaebum.
She said they had a conversation, but said his face expression was not good at all.
That's why they were scared to continue on with the conversation and on her ticket she wrote
Are you angry? because of meㅠ? Sorry.. ㅠ.
As Jaebum was signing her ticket, he said it wasn't because of her. He wasn't angry because of her.
Something bad had happened to him.
That's what he said.
That bad happening must've been the permanent withdrawal……………..

Of course he would be speechless. Since that company made a permanent withdrawal announcement.
Of course he would've been mad.
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 타가수 스타일리스트인데 재범군 탈퇴소식 듣고 안타까워서 글썼던 적 있는 사람임.
주소(http://pann.nate.com/b200206172)

근데 내가 그때 일이 좋게 풀릴줄알고 말안한거 있는데 그냥 말하겠음.

내가 투피엠 좋게 본 이유는 인사성이 너무나도 밝은 재범군 덕분이었다는거^^

그때가 어떤 상황이였냐면

10점만점10점 별호응 못받고 어갠앤어갠 처음 나왔을때 였는데

난 닉쿤만 버라이어티에서 가끔 봐서 알고 투피엠이라는 그룹명으로만 알고있었음,

근데 '투피엠' 적힌 문앞이 옆 대기실인 경우가 참 많았는데.

-omitted-

여튼 '투피엠' 내가 그래도 7명의 다는 아니어도 몇명은 좀 헷갈려서..(준호.준수.찬성)
나머지는 조금 알게되고 관심 갖게 된게
투피엠 대기실에서 나온 누가 계속 나한테 인사해서 였음.
그리고 내가 너무 너무 인사잘하길래 같이 일하는 언니한테 물어봄.
"언니 투피엠은 인사를 참 잘하는거같네요^^"
언니가 하는 말이 쟤네 저번에 코디는 사람아니냐고 인사하고 다니라고

매니저한테 크게 혼난적있었다고ㅋㅋ
근데 그 누구하나 제대로 안지킴. 우리 재범군빼고^^


그리고 우리 댄서 언니 중 한명이 재범군이 너무 맘에 든다고 사진찍고싶다고 그러다가

매니저 잠깐 사라진 사이 사진 찍어 달라고 부탁했더니

"원래 회사 방침때문에 안되는데 (매니저없는사이) 얼른 찍으세요"

이렇게 말해준 사람임.

내가 재범군이 난감해 하는줄알고 놀라서 가서

"언니!!언니 뭐해... 죄송해요.. 제가 언니 관수 잘할게요"

이랬더니 웃어주던 사람이었음.

그리고 그후 엠비씨에서 만났을때

나 다른 댄서 언니랑 싸울뻔할때 막 아는 척 해줘서

험악한 분위기에서 구해준게 우리 재범군임.

난 재범군을 믿음..


-omitted-

 I'm a stylist for a singer, and after I first heard of Jaebum's withdrawal, I once wrote something a while ago out of regret.
Address: http://pann.nate.com/b200206172

But at that time I thought everything would turn out okay, so I didn't add in some things, but I'll just say it now.

The reason I liked 2PM was because of the Jaebum who always used to greet so nicely ^^

This was what kind of situation it was.

I didn't take much notice of them during 10 out of 10, but it was during the first time they came out with Again and Again.

Knowing only Nichkhun through variety shows, I knew that there was a group out there called 2PM,

But there were a lot of times when we got put in the waiting room next to '2PM'.

-omitted-

Anyway, I didn't know all the names of all 7 members, cause I kept getting muddled up with a few of them.. (Junho.Junsu.Chansung)
The reason I got to take interest in the other members was because,
Whenever 2PM left the waiting room, there was always someone who'd stop by and greet me.
He greeted so so so well, and I asked an unnie that a worked with,
"Unnie, I think 2PM greets really kindly ^^"
That unnie told me that last time those guys greeted by asking if the stylists were even people,

And got told off big time by their manager haha
But there was one person who didn't get told off. Our Jaebum ^^

Also one of our dancer unnies liked Jaebum so much that she wanted to take a picture with him,

And while the manager left for a while, she asked him if they could take a picture together, and he said

"Because of our company's policy, we're not actually meant to take photos (but since the manager is not here) let's quickly take one"

That's what he said.

I thought Jaebum would be in an awkward situation because of this, so I said,

"Unnie! Unnie what are you doing… I'm sorry.. I'll take good control of this unnie"

But he just laughed it off.

After that, when we saw each other at MBC (Music Core)

I was about to have a huge fight with another dancer unnie, he came in and talked to me as if he knew me really well.

Our Jaebum saved me from a really serious situation.

I believe in Jaebum..

-omitted-




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My Reply:


Gosh, I miss Jay so so sooo much.
How I wish I can see him smiling to us Hottest again T.T

Tuesday, March 2, 2010

7 2PM Fan Conference (ENG Cuts) Download Link, MU // 6.58 MB // .mp3

CREDITS: ___ @2oneday.com (UPLOAD), CLUBBOX (SOURCE)


 100227 - 2PM Fan Conference (English Cuts)

Yeah so I cut it and transcribed what was being said :)
(not to be confused with "translated".. i did not translate these parts. they're already in English.. lol)

I highlighted areas in blue for noises/gestures and stuff and I highlighted stuff in red if i couldn't really hear what the speaker was saying. If you think I made an error in my transcription or figured out what the speakers were saying, do tell me and I'll update this post ^^,

edit:
* thanks amatsu. Updated speaker as Noeul. When I heard it at first, it didn't sound like the same speaker to me but I didn't know Eunice came with a friend :)
* thanks herochan. Updated Part 1. lol the "and you, khun" makes so much more sense than "and your crew" LOL. xD
* thanks Jai. Updated Part 1. LOL. why am i so retarded. lol thanks for the corrections! :D

* OOPS. I didn't realize there was another short English portion before Part 1. I cut it and transcribed it real quick so here it is. lol. Sorry D: Oh and I also realized, that I don't know for sure which voice is Eunice's and which is Noeul's (although I do have a guess. lol) so I have decided to just put 2OD Rep for both speakers -- updated 100228, 5:42 PM PST


Part 0 of 3 (lol.. oops)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CYG2WSFW
 
 
 2OD Rep : So um.. I was wondering, "Do you guys have any plans to go to the US and would you be introduced as a 6 member group and would you have a new leader? Do you have plans for a new leader?"

Taec: [Korean] We don't have any plans right now (2OD Rep: Yeah) so I don't think we're gonna have like "Oh. We're gonna put a new member and put him as the leader." Like.. We're not gonna do anything like that. And first.. And second of all: I don't think we're gonna pick up a new leader or go to US and be like.. you know.. "We.. We were a seven membered group but now we're six." We're not gonna say that. It's already been decided. (2OD Rep: What?) It's already been decided. We are six now.

JYPE CEO Jung Wook: [Korean]

2OD Rep : [I want to hear some from.. (..?) so] Okay. But I was wondering if that whole myspace [weren't a (..?)] comment.. If that didn't.. If that didn't happen at all, would Jay be kicked out of 2PM?

JYPE CEO Jung Wook: [It was by a (..?)] private matter.

2OD Rep: Yeah. Well if that myspace didn't happen, then this whole controversy wouldn't have happened either?

JYPE CEO Jung Wook: Yeah sure. Sure.

2OD Rep: So it wouldn't .. He wouldn't have been kicked out?

JYPE CEO Jung Wook: Yeah.

 
 
 2OD Rep: Hi. Can I ask this to Nichkhun and Taecyeon? Um, you know the comments he made on Myspace? They should've known that that comment wasn't to belittle Korea. But he's just venting out right? Cause that's the cultural differences. So but when.. when this thing happened, he didn't talk to you and you, Khun, about it. And if you knew, you should've known about like.. that comment.. wasn't something so bad. So why did Jay feel the need to leave?

Taec: I mean ... the point when ah-all the Koreans found out like what he wrote on Myspace... no one ...cared. Everyone was like "Oh. Just go and kill yourself."

2OD Rep: mm

Taec: It wasn't.. it wasn't like "Oh. He must've done something. You know.. He must have .. you know.. some kind of reason to write that." It wasn't... you know.. anything. No one cared about him. Not even one single reply.. wrote "We still love you Jay." No one wrote that. What are.. what are we supposed to feel? I mean Jay probably felt the pressure more than uh.. anyone could feel.

2OD Rep: So you couldn't persuade him to stay? :(

Khun: Well, we felt that if he would've stayed, he might've gotten hurt by.. by the people that are like around him. Cause people really, you know, people hated him. So I.. We didn't want him to go, of course. But we felt that it was the best way to save him and save everyone from getting hurt.

Taec: Yeah. Think about it. I mean... [clears throat] Luckily, the fact that he left, it made a lot of.. you know.. people saying "Oh. We were kind of like.. you know.. witch.. witch-hunting" and whatnot. But the fact that it wasn't like that. So by leaving, it was.. I think it was the best thing that he could've done for us and for himself.

2OD Rep: And when he left, did you kind of think that maybe he might come back later? After this plays over?

Taec: Of course. From the day that he left, we knew that he was gonna come back. We had.. we had that belief.

 
 
 2OD Rep: So um none of you talked about like the current issues. I was wondering about the future plan. The album was to be released in April. Is that still coming... It's still.. Is it still gonna be released in April?

Taec: I mean.. We are preparing for it but I don't think... I can tell it exactly (2OD Rep: Oh)...until the next album.

2OD Rep: Then if this album is released, like.. how are.. how are you guys gonna.. um.. comeback? Like just.. You know when that thing happened with the Heartbeat. You just focused on singing the song on stage. Not like entertainment shows.

Taec: Yes.

2OD Rep: So with this album, are you going to do the same way? Like not going on shows and such?

Taec: Um.. The reason why we didn't come out on entertainment TV shows was because... we were kind of showing that we're mis-missing out on one piece. And... We had the plan to bring Jay back and that's why we were able to tell the television networks that we will be able to do entertainment shows again. And we were all contracted and we started coming out.. I mean.. It's already... like.. Signing's been done. So we have to go on the TV.. net entertainment TV shows where we found out that Jay's not coming back. I mean we can't just tell the television network "Oh we don't want to do it anymore. He's not coming back." It's not as simple as that.

2OD Rep: Then do you know about Jay's future plan at all?

Khun: Yeah I talked to him but... I talked to him... to.. to him about that on the phone. And he said that um.. he wants to concentrate on .. uh preparing with his friends, AOM, and possibly he might go on um.. [holds back laugh] America.. America's Best Dance Crew just for trying. And I told him to go to school, actually.

 
 
 2OD Rep: Um.. I'll just ask in English. Um, so the last concert that Jay was in was Dream Concert, right? Um.. and there's a lot of rumours claiming that the members signaled a 7.. you know.. throughout the performance. And I was just wondering if that's coincidence or you know..?

Taec: Um. First of all, the.. Junho's.. like.. showing of stuff like number 7.. (2OD Rep: Yeah) that is just another rumour that you guys all created. And he was just holding the mic with three fingers. And he had to say "shipjeom manjeome shipjeom" but he's holding hand mics so we can't go like.. [gesture] so that's another rumour that.. you know.. that was created and what other rumours are there? I mean.. a lot of stuff that leads to Jay coming back we ... pointed it out.. literally, in our album. But not like.. on the stage we yelled out 7. [Me and Wooyoung (..?)] doing Inkigayo [one (..?)] pointing out like number 7. There.. there was not... [background laughter] well, we looked at each other and going like "Okay. [Put (..?)] 7 on." [background laughter] That doesn't.. you know.. that's just like a rumour that you know.. Everyone wants it. Even he wanted it. But we didn't actually like.. plan for it.
 
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"When you’re feeling falsely accused, let’s look at God’s bigger picture" - Jay's Pastor

CREDITS : Church Blog (SOURCE); ___@2ONEDAY.COM (TRANS) 
 




When you’re feeling falsely accused, let’s look at God’s bigger picture.

If you watch the movie about Joseph’s life story, there is a scene where Potiphar’s tries to seduce Joseph. Potiphar’s wife says to Joseph, “Joseph, spend the night with me,” to which Joseph replies, “I don’t like middle-aged women who are old and ugly like you.” When Potiphar’s wife grabs Joseph’s clothing, he leaves his clothing behind and runs away. She becomes extremely mad and her goodwill towards him turns into rage. She shouts in a loud voice that this slave tried to dishonor me. The scene changes and it shows Potiphar holding a trial in front of the whole household. Potiphar’s wife shouts that Joseph must die. Joseph insists that he is innocent. However, in the end, Potiphar decides to put Joseph in prison. The scene changes again and shows Potiphar’s bedroom. It shows Potiphar’s wife turning on her husband in a fit of rage, “Why did you not kill the one that tried to disgrace me? Don’t you think that just sending him to prison is not enough?”

Potiphar says this, “I believe Joseph. I know that he is not that type of person. You were the one that intentionally tried to seduce him, right?” In this scene, as he says this, he hits his wife. I could not continue watching because I felt that this [movie] did nothing for my devotion. In the Bible, there are those who are falsely accused. The first is Jesus, and the second is Joseph. Joseph was sold as a slave to Egypt because of his brothers. Even in Egypt, where he was serving his owner, Potiphar, he was put in prision because he refused the seduction of Potiphar’s wife. Potiphar knew that his wife was not living a virtuous life. At the same time, he also knew of Joseph’s loyalty and religious belief when he put Joseph in command of the whole household. If he really thought that Joseph was guilty, he would not have simply put Joseph in prison. He would have killed him. At the time, the owner had the power to decide whether a slave should live or die.

Joseph was the sacrificial lamb for Potiphar’s honor. Potiphar sent Joseph to prision knowing he was innocent to protect his and his wife’s honor. There was a rumor that that Caesar’s wife also had an affair with another man. This turned out to be false. However, Caesar still cast out his wife. The reason? It is because Caesar believed that “there should not be any rumors about the wife of Caesar”. This is because of the characteristic of the men who cared more about their honor than the truth. That is why Joseph was falsely accused and sacrificed to save Potiphar’s honor. Joseph did not fight with people to try and convince them that he was innocent. He only cried to God about his false accusations. This is also important to us as believers. Joseph was put in prison under false accusations, but it turns out that prison was a shortcut to meet the king.

Right now, there is someone who is by my side that is also suffering from unspeakable false accusations. He is suffering from all sorts of rumors and gossipers. To save their own honor, they are making a young man and his parents suffer. It may look bad now, and even though you feel falsely accused, if you just trust and follow the way that God is leading you, it will turn out to be the fastest shortcut. When you feel falsely accused, you need to place your complete trust in God, who is creating the bigger picture. This is because God’s way of thinking is different from the way humans think. You could resolve it by retaliating like regular people. You could also resolve it by explaining. However, none of these solutions can completely resolve false accusations. Nevertheless, later on, when you look back at the way God has led you, it will have been the shortcut not to false accusations, but the shortcut to receiving blessings.
February 28, 2010
From the Pastor’s Office, Pastor XXX
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My Reply:


[font="Arial Black"]"You could resolve it by retaliating like regular people. You could also resolve it by explaining. However, none of these solutions can completely resolve false accusations."[/font]

Maybe this is why Jay hasn't spoke up, cause he's just folllowing what his pastor said(:
I'm so glad that at least Jay is so blessed to have people around that cares and is by his side when he mosts needs it.^^

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Transcript of JYPE’s conference about 2PM & Jaebeom – Pt 1

 Credits: allkpop




Regarding JYPE’s fan conference about 2PM and Jaebeom’s termination, we at allkpop previously reported what was said during the conference by translating Oneday Room (a Korean fan community)’s summary of the event. However, it appears that this summary neglected some important points, so we decided to listen to the entire four-hour conference ourselves, transcribe then translate it into English with absolutely everything included.
If you have any doubts about our work and would like to judge the audio yourself, you can download the full audio file of the conference to follow the discussion and verify the transcript’s details however you’d like.

Because our transcript is extremely long, we’ve divided it into segments; here is part one, which covers the first 58 minutes.

Host: Everyone’s faces or identity will not be filmed. It will be filmed from where 2PM members will be sitting, and voices will obviously get recorded, but nobody will be filmed. The conference will start in 3-4 minutes when the members enter.
Fan: I have a question. Is JYPE going to distribute filmed material for media to use?
Host: As you know, this event is not open to media…
Fan: (interrupts) What I want to ask is, since this event is not open to media, is the video filmed by JYPE going to be distributed to media for use and if JYPE’s video is going to be distributed then…
Host: (interrupts) You’re talking about editing and…
Fan: (finishes off what she was saying) …distributed like that.
Host: I will let you know after clarifying this with others. Please wait.
(Sound of fans sneering)
Fan: Would you not film this if we refused filming?
Host: To answer the first question, you were talking about us editing this or distributing it to media; we’re not filming this to give it to the media.
(Sound of fans talking)
Fan: Can you take responsibility to what you just said?
Fan: Are you sending this to Jaebeom?
Fan: I heard you say you’re filming this to prevent accidents? What accidents are you talking about?
Host: All questions right now are about JYPE filming this event so if you give me bit of time then I will prepare answers for your questions. Please wait.
Fan: So you’re hosting this event without even knowing anything about filming?
Multiple fans: What is the point of filming?
Host: (tries to calm fans down) Ok. The filming was to take place for next two or three or four hours depending on how things go (sound of fans sneering); the video was for both parties to use as a reference, not for us to distribute to media, or to edit and make it say what we want, but there seems to be confusion about the matter so we will decide to not film the event as we were originally planning to.
Multiple Fans: Ok.
Host: To enforce this, please wrap up your cameras. Since guests [conference attendees / Hottests] are concerned we will start without it.
(Sound of fans talking)
(Sound of fan asking questions, hard to make it out)
Host: Because our guests are here today, thinking many similar things…
Fan: (interrupts) What we want to ask is if the company is going to film this, we want the right to freely film this event as well.
Host: Again, because we have you, our guests here today; many of you have similar ideas but regarding filming, as I said there may be parts where people might become concerned about later, so we were going to use video as reference. We weren’t going to film the video for media to use but some of our guests have different ideas and are talking about filming themselves, but since it’s hard to unify the voices of everyone here today so…
Fan: (interrupts) Since we do not have many fans here today, why don’t we just vote…
Host: (interrupts) So you would like to vote? But you’re a guest with an idea slightly different from others…
Fan (interrupts): If we unified our idea then would you let us film?
Host: For us to film the event for reference, then we need everyone to say that we can, but guests seem to have different ideas here today, saying if the company was to film then fans want to film as well. What I said before (sound of fans talking) excuse me, the fans seem to have different ideas but what we could all use is as we agreed on, not to film anything and we agreed on that so we decided to go that way (sound of fans talking) if that is the opinion of the majority then (sound of fan asking a question, hard to make out) as I said before, our guests seem to have disagreements but the majority opinion seems to not want the company to film for reference so we will pack up our camera and not do any filming. We were planning on filming because some words could be interpreted wrongly and such, but since our guests are concerned about the matter and since our concern was not a big deal, we will exclude filming of the event, and, when talking about this event later or reading about it, we will consider our 80, 90 guests here as witnesses and each one of you as a camera.
Fan: So is that confirmation saying there is no limitation to us recording this event for references? That is what we want. We want to make something for references as well; can’t just trust everyone here as being a camera and we need to leave a reference so…
Host: (interrupts) What you are saying right now is as I was saying before; this is where our guests seem to have disagreement, asking if it is okay to film, then (sound of fans talking) (rep sighs) our fans seem to be having a disagreement.
Multiple fans: What about both parties do it?
Fan: (angry voice) If JYPE films, we’ll film. If JYPE audio-records, we’ll audio-record. Both sides should have equal rights…
Multiple fans: (frustrated voice) He said he won’t do it.
Host: To summarize, we are sorry but for filming, we have a camera to film for references. As you notice, we have no media in here; our guests thought that was one-sided of us so we will not film and since we have 80, 90 guests here and every one of you…
Fan: (interrupts) What we demand is not to film or not film, is JYPE going to film and send it to media…
Host: (interrupts) Because of such concerns we decided not to film this.
Multiple fans: Do it if you want.
Multiple fans: Why don’t both parties film?
Host: Our guests have come to conference today, and we need some basic rules in order to host this, and to say this again we have 80-90 people here and every one of your opinions matter to us, but if we somewhat reach an agreement then that will be the path we take in terms of hosting. Filming on our side, which was your concern, will not be done and we will only use communication for hosting without any filming done by both parties.
Multiple fans: Ok.
Host: I apologize but hosting is a bit tough and it is important to host communication between our fans, 2PM members and those that represent the company. So I know a couple guests have brought cameras, but due to multiple concerns, when we are hosting something within the company, such as the Wonder Girls conference we just had where we had fans send representatives we…
Fan: (interrupts and asks a question but cannot make out)
Host: Again, there will not be any filming.
Multiple Fans: Ok.
Host: Many are here but I will consider that all of you are agreed on this and will continue on.
Multiple Fans: Yes.
Fan: Please clearly tell us in detail how you picked fans who are here today.
Host: It was notified but since 2PM debuted there were many communities. In our standards we picked communities who could be said to represent the fandom, from the fans’ perspective, and picked from those. We did not give a quota per community or hand-pick communities. We took recommendations from those that can be said to represent the community and brought about one hundred, and I believe about 90 are here today. We did not hand pick people or community. So in order to move on…
Fan: (interrupts, something about 12 communities)
(Sound of fans talking)
Fan: We want to know more about this “representation”.
Fan: Let me tell you something I don’t know. First you said you notified about picking one hundred, but you didn’t. Also, one community was told to submit list of people they wanted to bring to JYPE but they didn’t, but they ended up getting in anyways and was told to just bring officers. How do you explain that?
(Sound of fans sneering)
Host: Guests are asking questions, but what is it that you are concerned the most about 90 people who are present today? Are you concerned that the company handpicked communities or individuals or…
Fan: (interrupts) You need to reveal the names of communities that are present.
(Multiple fans agreeing to that)
Host: So could I move on after that?
Multiple fans: Yes.
Host: Please hold on a moment.
(Sound of fans talking)
Host: Due to unified concerns of our guests we will talk about the 12 communities then start the conference right after that.
(Sound of fans talking)
Female voice: I will announce communities that are here today. I accepted these communities, even if the communities had very few people. I will announce the names. (Announces names of communities that are present)
Host: I will consider that to answer your questions and go ahead with the conference.
(Sound of fans talking)
Fan: (asks a question but hard to make it out)
Host: We are not thinking of limiting this to an hour or two. Since we have many guests here we’re taking questions freely but try to keep them from being repetitive. There won’t be time limit so no limiting length or questions or answers, or prohibition of people to ask questions. Again, there are many guests here today so please refrain from asking repetitive questions or from one guest asking multiple questions.
Fan: Why are only 2PM members here?
Host: (interrupts) We will move on with only the members for now, and I will explain that later. Since members are here now they’ll say hello and move on.
2PM: Hello, we’re 2PM.
(Sound of fans sneering)
Fan asking question (Q): According to a statement by JYPE, six members of 2PM agreed upon Jaebeom’s termination on January 6th. Any disagreement or concerns with the statement? I would like an answer from all members.
Host: I apologize, but as I mentioned before there is no filming so if you have a…
Q: (interrupts, irritated voice) Do not give them time to think, please answer right away…
Host: (interrupts) Then I will say it after answering these questions. Here is the last announcement for those that are audio-recording. This was agreed by both parties before…
Multiple fans: (irritated voice) We won’t do it.
Q: Please answer.
Junsu: I will go first. Yes, it is correct.
(Sound of fans talking)
Q: Nichkhun, please answer.
Nichkhun: Yes, it is correct.
Chansung: Yes.
Taecyeon: Yes, it is correct.
Junho: Yes, it is correct.
Wooyoung: Yes.
New Q: I want the six members to talk about their honest feelings. I want to know if you all consider Jaebeom to be unfit for leader or member of group 2PM. An official statement says that Jaebeom was considered unfit to be the leader due to personal wrongdoing and you all agreed upon his termination because he needs to be morally responsible for his actions. Members agreed on that matter on January 6th. But after that, a member called Jaebeom a good brother and said he missed him on February 14th. Also, someone said Jaebeom was a jewel on a TV show, not to mention the “us seven” remarks. All those things were said after you all decided that Jaebeom was unfit. Then can we consider these statements to be saying that you are not concerned about Jaebeom’s morality and are only concerned about his abilities? Also, such comments about Jaebeom after a decision has been made appear to be telling lies to and deceiving fans. Then aren’t moral levels of the six members questionable also? I will ask again. When reflecting on moral levels of each member, do you really think Jaebeom is unfit to be a member of 2PM?
Taecyeon: Yes.
(Sound of fans sneering)
Q: All members must answer.
Junsu: Yes. I think he is unfit.
Multiple fans: Go on.
Q: I want answers from all members.
(Sound of irritated fans)
Q: (raises voice) Answer!
Nichkhun: Yes.
(Sound of fans demanding that the member explain his answer)
Q: Let me summarize the question for you, since you don’t seem to understand such difficult words. You all agreed on Jaebeom quitting and being terminated from 2PM on January 6th. But after that, you continued to deceive fans by commenting on him. What was the reason behind that? Aren’t you just using fans to make money, and if so, do you all really have rights to ask for love from the fans, and if so, then don’t you ever question your own morality? No yes or no, explain your thoughts.
Taecyeon: Not deceiving but more of not being able to make a decision ourselves. We made an agreement but Jaebeom was still our member and we still think of him as a good friend.
(Sound of fans sneering)
Q: (interrupting a member trying to speak) He is unfit but he is a good friend? Are you all saying that Jaebeom has moral problems but since he can rap and sing and do something he is good in terms of his abilities?
Taecyeon: I didn’t say he is a good friend in terms of his abilities, we really think Jaebeom is a good friend but since he did something wrong we cannot accept him.
(A fan tries to ask a question but host interrupts her)
Q: I want answers from all members. Taecyeon seems to be speaking for the team…
(The fan tries to ask a question again but the host keeps interrupting her)
Junsu: I will answer. Our fans must be wondering what Jaebeom did to cause such problems…
Q: (interrupts) No. I don’t want to know about his personal life, I want to talk about marketing that uses him.
Junsu: We were with Jaebeom during Again and Again and I Hate You, and even before that. So we said we thank Jaebeom when we got awards but really, when we heard of the news we thought it would be hard for Jaebeom to be 2PM’s leader anymore so that is why we made a decision.
Fan: Are you joking? Really, do you think you’re telling a joke?
Multiple fans: We want to hear from other members.
Nichkhun: What I said during the fan meeting was because I really missed Jaebeom so I said that but as we said Jaebeom couldn’t come because of what happened.
(Sound of fans sneering)
Q: Got to tell us about him not being able to come.
Nichkhun: (mumbles)
Multiple fans: Speak in English.
Host: This is a tough question and as you know, his Korean isn’t 100% so he could speak in English if you could excuse him since his Korean isn’t 100% and bad choice of vocabulary could end up not well so regarding that we will do what you want. Chansung, please speak.
Chansung: I think, a friend who is really close and is like a family member made a mistake and, I’m just saying for example here, did something bad but I don’t think it is right to talk badly about his morality or anything. I mean, even thieves have really close friends.
(Sound of fans sneering)
Fan: Is Jaebeom a thief?
Chansung: I was saying…
Fan: What a dumbass.
Chansung: So what I think is that you must be asking why did we say those things after what happened to Jaebeom, but we could say those things because he is still a good friend, and… (pause) what we’ve been saying, we could say we’re 7 and we miss him because what happened did not get announced yet and I think we can still say those. Like I miss him, he is a good friend.
(Fans laugh)
Fan: Wow, I’m getting a really good laugh out of this.
Junho: We know of course how hurt you all are. But what’s important is that I don’t think we used Jaebeom for marketing. When we were planning Heartbeat we did it wanting Jaebeom to come back and thinking he is coming back. Before January 6th, no, January 3rd, whatever program we were on or award show we were at we sang thinking about Jaebeom and him only. Really, that is not a lie. We have no reason to intentionally hurt you. I’m sure many of us miss the days when we were 7. We do too, by a lot. For us to come back like this we prepared a lot and Jaebeom practiced a lot in States and while watching videos of him dance we were thinking when he comes back, we’re going to be on the top. That is why we were giving you guys little hints, for example what I wrote in “thanks to” in our album.
Fan: Thanks to is thanks to.
Junho: But after we learned of what happened on January 3rd, even we hated him for a little while. We had made the path for him to come back…
Fan: Who made that path? We f*cking made that path.
(Sound of fans talking)
Junho: You all made the path. You made that with us. Isn’t that right?
(Sound of fans talking)
Host: Please wait until the answers are over to…
Fan: (interrupts) We cannot communicate if we keep on making reactions while a member is speaking.
(Sound of fans talking)
Fan: (continues on) We can’t hear the answers clearly and ask questions, so please do not react like this when members are answering questions.
Host: Junho, please continue.
Junho: Anyways, we all made the path. Not just the six of us but with the help from all of you. Thanks to all of you who love Jaebeom. Because we were making that path, we hated him when we heard that story and we were so sorry to you. We felt so sorry for fans who had faith in us. I was going crazy. We were together and couldn’t say anything. When we heard of what happened, all I could do is just think of the path we were making and was literally stunned for a while. If someone learns of what happened or you learn about what happened, you’d feel the same. We cannot talk about what happened because we respect Jaebeom. Those of you that are laughing, I know you think this is absurd. How do you think we felt when we heard the story? We thought you were our strength and Jaebeom’s strength so we valued you so much. I am so sad about what’s going on. You all spent about 2 years with Jaebeom. We spent from 3 to 5 years. That is why we were so sad. You might laugh at us but we are over that level, we are just plain going insane, because we can’t be with Jaebeom. The awards we received, we felt that we needed to really thank Jaebeom and all of you so we think we could mention him, at Seoul music awards that you are all concerned about.
Q: Wooyoung, please speak.
Wooyoung: I’m sorry but may I ask a question to guest who asked a question? Not only to you but everyone who are here today. Do you want us to answer just the questions you have prepared today, or do you want to just hear us talk seriously?
Multiple fans: Both.
Wooyoung: Serious talk should be answers to questions. Honestly, my heart is breaking down… (sighs) we came here today willing to invest the entire day and talk seriously with all of you. Please understand that our answers may get dragged on and we think this conference is valuable in that we can tell you our serious stories. We are really sad and heartbroken about what happened. In my case, I wasn’t good enough to be a member of 2PM, as you all know I lacked acrobatic skills or singing skills and thanks to Junho, Chansung, Taecyeon, Khun, Junsu and our leader Jaebeom I could be in 2PM. I was thankful of and felt sorry to our members each and every day because I was not good enough. We could do this together thanks to our trusty members. Even when we were hurt because of little things we tried to talk those out. Although we didn’t have any fans in the beginning but we tried and one by one we started getting those that would cheer us on. I felt really thankful and realized what it feels like to be proud. Every album we tried out best. Jaebeom can make mistakes but really, we might be able to forgive him since we trust him and you all might forgive him… yes, we forgive him. You heard it, right? We forgive Jaebeom. But we made such decision because… (pause) we are not the only ones in this world. Other countries and other nationalities. Living things. We are not the only ones in this world so we couldn’t just think about ourselves. Because we thought about others we started thinking into the future. Thought about we might feel really hurt now, but will we regret out decision in future? Those were our concerns. This decision left a crack between our fans and us. We do not want that, nor do we want a crack between Jaebeom and us. We prepared with all our heart and because of that the crack feels so wide. I spoke with all my heart but if you still feel the need to point fingers at us, please understand the feelings of us 7 of 2PM, that way we can be over this crack and together again. Those are my thoughts.
Junsu: It is obvious for you all to be angry and hate us. You all loved us so much but those kids made an absurd decision, so the words we say must be hateful and hurting. But as Junho said, think about how we would feel, and we did not give up on 2PM. We came to that decision regarding Jaebeom because we had no choice and it makes us sad. I dare say it is really sad. (raises voice) we made that decision because we had no choice but to. The reason we keep calling him a good friend is because he really is. It is above the level of something social or humane; even we can’t protect him from it. (sigh) Please understand us.
Nichkhun: It breaks my heart.
Junsu: The situation where you are angry and misunderstandings are being built, having to hold a conference is really tough. Things happen during lives. We will try our best in answering you today. Thank you.
New Q: Two questions. I would like to ask the members, when was the last time you contacted Jaebeom? What did you talk about? Does he know about this conference? Also, there are many rumours out there right now. This is really a question to the company, but to members, I heard one member was all for letting Jaebeom go and one was against it until the end. I also heard the company abandoned him because 2PM was fine without him, and admins of large fan communities are being bribed by the company. Such unspeakable rumors are out there. Members, are there any rumors you wish to explain? Company, do you plan on doing anything about these rumors/ When rumors spread they become reality and become accepted, so do you plan on doing anything about that? If the members have anything to talk about regarding the rumors, please speak up.
Taecyeon: On contacting Jaebeom, Khun texted him yesterday, to see if anything was up. They talked about the situation andon what happened online when the statement went out. Jaebeom knows of the conference. Regarding the rumours, there are lots of absurd rumors out there. Not even ones like who agreed and who disagreed, there are ones that shocked us and as Wooyoung said, we had no choice but to make such decision and there are many rumors out there but most them are made up. As statement revealed, we were waiting for him to come back starting in October and our album name was changed from “Heartbeat” to “1:59PM” because he was coming back. (sigh) It was all planned like that so abandoning him because the six of us were doing well is pretty absurd. If you have questions regarding other rumours then please ask again.
Host: You asked a question to JYPE too, but we will first let the fans and 2PM members have sufficient time to talk and later talk about questions you have for the company.
New Q: You said Jaebeom knows about the conference. Did he say anything about this?
Nichkhun: Jaebeom said he wanted to shoot some video with you, and said he is really sorry… and that’s it.
New Q: (angry voice) I would like to ask a question that is not on the questionnaire sheet. I believe I am the oldest fan here today. I am a mother with a son who is as old as the members. What I want to know is the rumor that everyone here knows of but cannot talk about. I’m sure all members know of it. Jaebeom is being talked of like a trash. You all know, right? You just can’t say it. He is like a human trash. Apparently what happened will have bigger social impact than the mistranslation that happened last year. It is already on the news. Personal problem with big social impact means termination? Reading the statement by the company, the problem is something everyone can gossip about. The members said we cannot accept him when considering not only us but what is being viewed to the society. We are fans who knew him for 2 years but you knew him for 4, 5 or 3 years and you just let go of his hand. I don’t know how big of a personal issue it is but he is a human trash on the Internet because of it. Members must know; you use the Internet daily. My son goes to the army next month. I am here today because this issue really doesn’t sound like someone else’s. I want to ask this. Jaebeom has to live his entire life with that issue haunting him unless a proper explanation is made. Wooyoung, did you say you didn’t abandon 2PM? You didn’t abandon 2PM, but the fans are about to. When a person’s heart meets with another’s then they can even accept enemies who killed their children. What kind of socially wrong thing did he do? Murder? Drugs? It was a moral slip not a criminal one. Why would he mention it to the company? I don’t know what kind of mistake he made but I don’t think this is right. On the Internet, Jaebeom is international trash. He is below human. That is all.
Taecyeon: Thank you. Who wants to answer?
Multiple fans: Everyone should.
Taecyeon: Everyone? I’m sorry; I couldn’t really hear the question.
Fan: Let me reiterate it for you.
Taecyeon: Yes, please.
Fan: (continuing on) So you don’t need to mention what Jaebeom did. But from your perspective, is Jaebeom’s wrongdoing something that is a problem because he is a celebrity or would it be a social problem even if he was not a celebrity.
Multiple fans: That’s not it…
Wooyoung: We are sorry to have made a decision when you were watching, and honestly, we are really hurt but we are still trying to make a smile. The reality hurts but, if we were to cry, we would look irresponsible. We think this is the way we can protect Jaebeom until the end. We think this is a social problem to the point where we can’t mention it or answer to your question. We can’t answer even in a conference like this where we are taking time to be hurt and question and answer. Heart and heart, that is important, faith. We think in a situation like this we can’t answer as a human and us 2PM, even in far future, until the end, until we die, we will try our best to not forget about us. Even when we get married and have kids, we won’t forget that we were 2PM, we are one. We don’t think this is the only way to defend Jaebeom. We’re not letting Jaebeom go. We are protecting him. But this is really social… (sigh) we can’t speak it with our own mouth. We are really sorry. We can say sorry because we are one and we didn’t abandon him from our heart. Please don’t misunderstand. Let’s make a promise. Not us six but us seven, and with everyone here, let us make a promise. (fans sneer) Whatever people say, we will defend him until the end. I thought that was the best we could do.
Host: So the questions are answered…
Multiple fans: (demands that the question be answered properly)
Wooyoung: Being a celebrity or not doesn’t matter. If you’re a human, if you’re a human… we can’t do much, really.
Multiple fans: (demands that the question be answered properly)
Fan: He is clueless.
Fan: Let me summarize the question for you. So you think he is a good friend but you don’t think he can be in 2PM and work with you. That was the question but you answer very vaguely.
Wooyoung: It is not vague but I can’t help it. There have been many questions and answers but there is only one answer. We made the decision because we really had no choice but to do so. I won’t ask you to understand us. We are heartbroken and it feels like facing the cold winter naked. This is tough, really.
New Q: Wooyoung mentioned that the decision was made for all 7 members of 2PM. The decision was made to protect Jaebeom but the words “personal life” were mentioned in the statement. That word is spawning many rumours so I want to know what you felt after reading the statement.
Wooyoung: The statement from our company?
Q: I’m not done yet. Also, you said it is a secret that you can take to the grave, but about criminal law…
(The fan mumbles and another fan takes over the questioning)
You said that what happened was a big problem and should not have happened. Criminal law exists to control such problems. If the problem is so large and socially wrong then it is a criminal matter, not social. Talk of morality was not even on the statement. Rumors popped up when the statement said “personal life,” and when few rumours became well-known you said that was not right, but I am really curious. What kind of problem is not criminal and only moral, but is large enough to cause this?
Taecyeon: I don’t believe we mentioned morality.
Wooyoung: Let’s say Jaebeom came back after committing a legal wrong. Would he be able to perform as 2PM? We might be able to forgive him, but the society might not. (fans yell out, he can take punishment) I said it is something that I can’t speak about. (fans yell out, he needs to receive punishment) Punish? (fans yell, yes) Punishment is for a court. We won’t punish him.
(Fans keep pointing things out and Wooyoung mumbles)
Junsu: You all are keep asking questions regarding what Jaebeom did. We’ve known Jaebeom for a long time, and we were questioning did Jaebeom really do that? It was that shocking. If you are here today because you love Jaebeom who used to be the leader of 2PM, please refrain from asking such questions. If you really love him.

That concludes the first 58 minutes of the conference. Stay tuned to allkpop for the second part.
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I teared a little at Junho's part...    T.T

Advertising companies feels the effects of boycotts

CREDITS : WORLD NEWS (SOURCE) ; hazyfiasco@2ONEDAY.COM (TRANS) 


 재범 탈퇴와 이에 따른 팬들의 거센 항의가 2PM을 모델로 내세운 회사들과 이들 멤버들이 출연하는 프로그램이 심각한 타격을 입을 것으로 예상된다.

2PM 팬클럽 핫티스트는 현재 2PM이 CF모델로 활약하고 있는 8개 제품과 그 계열사의 모든 제품에 대해 불매운동을 벌이겠다는 입장을 밝혔다. 이들은 모델을 교체하거나 박재범을 투입해 재촬영을 하지 않으면 제품 불매 운동을 지속할 것이라 이미 밝혔었다.

이 같은 팬들의 움직임에 해당 회사들은 현재 대책을 마련하기 위해 분주한 것으로 알려졌다. 2PM이 모델로 나온 한 외국계 회사의 경우에는 한국 지사 뿐만 아니라 해외 본사까지도 2PM 팬들이 모델 교체 등을 요구하는 항의를 해 난처한 상황이다.

광 고계 관계자는 "2PM이 모델로 나선 대부분의 CF들이 2PM의 팬들이나 그 또래를 대상으로 하기에, 팬들의 입김을 무시할 수 없는 상황"이라며 "그렇다고 해서 현 시점에서 모델을 교체할 수도 없는 상황이기에 대다수 업체들은 사태만 잠잠해지기만 기다릴 수 밖에 없을 것"이라고 전했다.

이 들이 출연하는 프로그램들 역시 난처한 상황인 것은 마찬가지다. 현재 2PM 팬들은 이들이 고정 출연하고 있는 SBS '일요일이 좋다-패밀리가 떴다2', KBS2TV '승승장구', SBS '인기가요' , 엠넷 '엠카운트다운' 등의 게시판에 멤버들의 하차를 요구하는 글을 올리고 있다.

재범 팬들의 항의가 단기간에 시청률 하락으로 이어지지는 않겠지만, 꾸준한 항의 및 현재와 같이 2PM 팬들로 인한 인신 공격 등이 이어진다면 이미지를 먹고사는 아이돌과 그들을 활용하려는 방송사 측은 장기적으로 피해가 예상된다.


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It is being expected for companies that are using 2PM as their models to be receiving much complaint by the fans.

2PM's fanclub Hottest is promoting boycott for the eight products that 2PM is currently working as advertisement models for. Fans have stated that if they do not use a new model or refilm the advertisements including Park Jaebum, the boycotts will continue.

Companies that are currently using 2PM as their models are busy in preparation of a countermeasure. A foreign company that uses 2PM has been put in a bad situation as not only Korean fans but foreign fans alike have stated a boycott stance on their products.

An associate of advertisement stated, "Companies cannot ignore the voices of the fans because the CF's that feature 2PM target their fanbase and their age group. They also cannot change the models due to the contracts. Most of the companies are currently waiting for the situation to blow over."

TV programs that 2PM are featuring in are also put in a sticky situation. 2PM fans have been flcoking to the boards of various TV shows such as Family Outing 2, Win Win, Inkigayo, and M Countdown, requesting for the members to be taken off the show.

Although the requests of the fans won't bring down the ratings of these shows in a short period of time, if they continue to persist, broadcasting companies have stated that it will be hard for them to use 2PM since idols rely entirely on their image.

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My Reply:

Like we've all guessed... it's only the beginnnig.
Btw, thanks for translating!(:

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[2OD EXCLUSIVE] 100226 First time visit to JYPE Building - Eunice's story, before the conference

Credits: 2ONEDAY

(I don't know if I'm supposed to post this, but if I'm not allowed to, you just can just comment on this post for me to take it down & I'd gladly do it^^ )


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Because it will be hard for Eunice to get on the computer, she emailed me her written fan account and asked us to post it on her behalf. She left instructions to post her account with accompanying pictures to have a better visual of her experience.

This is her written account in her own words. This has not been editted by the 2ONEDAY Team.


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Fan account at JYPE building, Friday, February 26, 2010.

I arrived in Korea Friday, February 26 a little after 7am. I arrived at the hotel around 9am. I quickly connected to the internet only to find out that Jay wasn’t coming back. The big news about Jay’s personal mistake during his AAA promotions had been announced while I was still flying to Korea. I was in utter shock. Just so big that even as I write this fan account on Sunday night, it STILL hasn’t hit me yet…. But I realized that I needed to get my butt over to JYPE and see the situation there cuz apparently there had been some problems when this news was first announced. (like the building being trashed)

It took less than 10 minutes to get to the JYPE building from the Coex hotel.

The weather was really nice that day. A little cloudy but still around 55 degrees Fahrenheit. Unfortunately, since there are tall buildings all around, there was very little sunlight there.

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I arrived around 2:20pm. It was such a strange feeling to be able to see the building right in front of my eyes. The building I had seen ever since becoming a fan of 2PM and 2AM. There is a Dunkin Donuts that is right across the street from the building. One side of it opens up so people can sit both indoors and outdoors. There were at least 60 fans or so hanging around DD talking and looking at the JYPE building. There were about 10 fans or so posting up notes or just reading the Post-Its and other things stuck on the building. The JYPE building is at a 4-way intersection without any lights or stop signs. There is barely enough room for one car to get through, but somehow cars managed to magically slide past each other. (Kinda like in Harry Potter….lol) When I first got there, there wasn’t much traffic. However, as the day went on, the number of people increased exponentially, as well as the traffic.

As soon as I got there, I took some pictures and video clips of the area and headed over to the building.

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However, only after about 5 minutes, I heard a bunch of shouting in front of the Dunkin Donuts. There was a crowd of about 50 girls and so I ran over to see what the commotion was about. The girls were surrounding this one guy with a camera. I don’t remember exactly what they were talking about, but in general, the fans were pissed that the journalist was taking pictures of the building/fans. They did not want the media to take pictures because they have a tendency to twist information. The journalist was arguing back that he had already taken the pictures. The fans kept telling him to leave…. After their small argument, the girls dispersed and I saw the journalist check his camera and say, “I took the picture, let’s go.” Even after he left, there were at least about 10 other people with cameras and camcorders who came and left during the 3 hours that I was there. Whenever the fans saw the reporters/journalists taking pictures (even from afar) they all were saying things like, “Wtf! Why are they filming from over there?” while continuing to yell at them to stop it.

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My initial reaction when I got to the building was a shock at just the sheer number of girls there mulling around and the amount of post-its. From writing on the windows to the walls to the cement ground to even Post-Its stuck onto the staffs’ cars, I just did not know where to start reading. Since my main job was to document everything, I started taking pictures like crazy. There were messages of love to Jaebum and the other 6 members, pleas for Jaebum to return, demands for JYPE to hand over Jaebum, and even uses of 2AM’s and 2PM’s title songs- “Park Jaebum, even if I die, I can’t send you away. I am not tired of waiting.” I especially liked the poster that read, “JAY=AND, JYPE=END” and a Post-It that read, “1 person pulled (lead) 6 people. Can’t 6 people pull 1 person?” There were also messages regarding Sunmi from WG, “We’ll wait for you, Sunmi.” There was also a Paris Baguette poster that was covered in writing. Some of the comments were, “[member name] are you the same [name] that we used to know?” “Personal problem? What is it?!” In the front of the building, there was a ball of something wrapped up in foil. It looked like an oversized Hershey kiss. I immediately wondered if it was poo, but didn’t ask anyone about it. It somehow disappeared and later saw it opened in the parking lot and inside of it were like 2 Korean pastries. >.<

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I put up a few Post-Its of my own for 2oneday.com. I signed them, “2oneday.com, International Fansite for 2AM and 2PM.”


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I noticed that there was a journalist with a cameraman filming parts of the wall. I thought to myself, “I should ask him if he can include my Post-It note too since I did come all the way from Chicago,” and went over to him and said to him in Korean while pointing to my orange Post-It note, “Can you make sure to film this too? I’m here as a representative of international fans.” He looked at me in surprise and said something along the lines of, “Oh really?!” and I told him, “Yes, I’m from Chicago,” and he immediately asked me if I was willing to do an interview and I asked him where he was from and he said, “tvEnt” and I said okay. I then started preparing what to say in Korean and he told me not to worry and that it was okay to answer in English. When the other fans noticed that I was talking with the reporter, they started crowding around us saying, “No, no interviews! The Hottests leaders don’t want fans doing any interviews! Leave her alone!” The reporter argued back, “Well, what’s the big deal? She’s not part of your group anyways! She’s willing to do an interview, so let me conduct it!” They all kept telling me that I had to refuse the interview and even putting themselves between me and the reporter.

Since I had pretty much just gotten off the plane that day and I hadn’t had the time to read the news about the latest 2PM announcements, I wasn’t aware that Hottests were told not to talk to the media. I started getting nervous because I didn’t want to come off as a careless fan and in the end I told him sorry, but no interview. And when the other fans saw that he wasn’t going to interview me, a lot of them went away, but then the reporter started casually talking to me again, asking me why I was there. I started telling him about 2oneday and how there were 2PM fans from all over the world. The fans noticed us talking and got all defensive again and kind of yelled at him to leave me alone while he defended himself by saying that he was just asking me because he found it interesting that I was all the way from the States. I told him that I was there mainly because of the 2PM conference the following day and the other fans all of a sudden got super interested. After the reporter left, they stared at me like an animal at the zoo. I guess they were shocked that someone all the way from the States had flown to Korea for a meeting. When they asked me if I had sent in an application and I told them yes, they said, “Daebak!” and “That is so cool and amazing!” Some people asked me if I knew where it was, and I told them, no, since JYPE was sending the information by email that night.

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While reading some of the notes, I noticed that one said, “Wating for Jay.” There were two girls next to me and so I told them, “This is missing an ‘I’” and they didn’t understand me at first and then when they did, they added the ‘i.’

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Since I was super cold (remember, no sunlight ) I decided to hang out at the Dunkin Donuts for a little bit. There were a bunch of girls just sitting there staring at the building so I was wondering if they were waiting for something or someone and decided to chill there for a bit too. The place was tiny and there were no seats available, but I ordered a Hot Chocolate and stood around, just listening to the girls who were there. Most of them were talking about 2PM and it was interesting to listen to people talk about it like it was a normal conversation topic. In the States, I’ve only discussed this kind of stuff online with other 2oders. There were girls criticizing the other members, talking about how bad they felt for Jay, etc. I kept asking different girls if they were waiting for something, but they said no. One girl even said that she wasn’t even a 2PM fan, but a fan of a trainee, which was surprising. While waiting, I think I saw a few trainees go in and out. However, since I have no idea who JYPE trainees are, I had no interest in them.

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After awhile I headed back to the building and took more pictures since the walls were now even more covered with Post-Its. In the front of the building, there were like 4 girls doing something and I kept hearing them talking about glue. I was confused but decided not to ask them what they were up to and just took some pictures in silence and left. I decided to back into the Dunkin Donuts since I was so cold. I bought myself a glazed donut and found a seat. I started writing more Post-Its.

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While doing so, I noticed a man had arrived in the front of the building and he kept pressing the button to get buzzed in. However, after like 30 seconds of just pressing and it apparently not working, he got on his cell phone. I realized that the girls had put liquid glue on the doorbell so that you couldn’t press down the buttons. I heard other girls in the Dunkin Donuts talking how liquid glue is really easy to take off once it dries, so it’s not a big deal. Soon after he got buzzed in I decided to put up my Post-Its and went back to the building walls. At this point there were probably over 100 girls there. There were even MORE Post-Its and I even saw a girl spraypainting the back wall in red, “Are you ignoring the Leadja? Jinyoung-Gura Power!!! 쓔” I took more pictures and by then, there were bouquets of white chrysanthemums with 2PM’s first two albums on top. Also, by the end of the day, a graffiti sign that had originally said, “YOUR MOM WAS LOOKING FOR YOU” had turned into, “YOUR MOM WAS JAYLOOKING FOR YOU.”

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In general, I was happy to see that there wasn’t any litter on the ground. I noticed that everything was thrown away in this huge orange plastic bag.

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Around 5:20pm, I was tired and cold and decided to take few last pictures of the building before leaving and stood by a convenience store that was across the street. Suddenly, I heard the beginning to a song that sounded very familiar and it was 2AM’s “Even If I Die, I Can’t Send You Away.” I thought it was just a radio, but it was actually the music video shown on a tv screen on the mart’s window! So I forgot about 2PM for a little bit and watched the music video in awe along with 2 other girls who were watching it with me.

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After that, I soon went back to my hotel.

BTW, for those wondering, I'm Korean-American and this is my first time visiting Korea in over 13 years.

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